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Interview
with Davey Havok
August 2000
Interview by Alex Capasso
Alex Capasso: What do you think
of your newfound success? I can't even imagine you guys playing
to a crowd of less than 500 now. It must take some getting used
to... having people come up to you and asking you to sign their
shoes or whatever...
Davey Havok: As far as our success
goes I'm extremely happy. There is nothing more satisfying than
knowing that more and more people are starting to appreciate what
we do, and what we love more than anything. We put our whole lives
and hearts into afi and we love it when people enjoy our band. However
a lot of people have the misconception that we're a lot larger than
we are. There are plenty of places we can be seen playing to less
than five hundred people, they're just not in places where you (Alex
C) usually see us play. As far as people asking to sign their shoes
or take pictures or whatever, I find it very flattering. It makes
me feel good that a small thing like that could make someone so
happy.
AC: What was it like playing to
a completely sold out Phoenix Theatre crowd in March? You pretty
much grew up there...
DH: Yeah, selling out the Phoenix
theatre was like a dream come true to me. As you noted we used to
go to shows there all the time and the only bands that would sell
that place out were Green Day, NOFX, Bad Religion, Primus, Jawbreaker,
bands like that. It was really strange for me, it's such a big place,
and I just never imagined we could actually do it. I hope to do
it again.
AC: How was the Warped Tour? I
heard you guys were put on the main stage at one event... weren't
you also band of the week or something? Wow!
DH: Warped tour was absolutely
amazing. Everyone on the tour were really cool...all the bands,
all the people working. We had a great time. Our shows, aside from
having to play outside during the day, were really fun. I was very
relieved to see that all our fans had come to see us, even when
we were playing the side stage during NOFX or Green Day or whoever.
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who came out
to represent at the warp tour. It made it so fun for us. And, yes,
we eventually did get moved to the big stage..I think we ended up
doing half main half side stage, and that was cool for us too.
AC: Do you ever wish you could
go back to playing to a small crowd? A lot of people look back fondly
to your old Gilman days...
DH: Yeah, like I noted early there
are a lot of places where we do play small clubs, some smaller than
gilman, to small crowds. So it's not like I miss it because we still
experience those type of shows every tour.
AC: Do you see your biggest crowd
in the Bay Area or have your legions of fans taken over elsewhere?
If so where?
DH: I think that Hollywood/SOCAL,
and the bay hold our largest concentrated fan bases. Seattle, Portland,
Vegas, Denver, and Phoenix are definite contenders though.
AC: How many days a year are you
on the road? How do you travel?
DH: We were on the last tour for
a month. Usually our tours range from three weeks at the shortest
to Ten weeks at the longest. We travel in a van with a trailer.
On the warp tour that made it tough because the tour is designed
for bands with buses, which meant we would leave the show and drive
straight through to the next show to arrive by seven a.m. This meant
that Smith and I would switch of sleeping on the floor of the van.
Adam sometimes would sleep on top of the van if we got to the show
by four or five in the morning.
AC: What do you think of the constant
prying into your personal life that has now become so commonplace
amongst fans? Can you accept that you're an, umm... I suppose a
mini-celebrity?
DH: Ha, mini celebrity, while I
don't really like to disclose too much information about my personal
life, I don't mind that people wonder. Hey, at least they care enough
to think about me or afi at all right?
AC: Your new album is probably
the most anticipated AFI album yet, is that pretty exciting? Does
it relieve pressure knowing that so many people are looking forward
to it? Or does it add pressure by creating more potential for disappointment?
I can't wait to hear it!
DH: I too have sensed that this
album is probably the most anticipated of our albums, and while
that is really cool, it does kinda stress me out. I think it's our
strongest album yet, but with how excited everyone is to hear it,
I feel a bit nervous. You know?
AC: How many songs will be on
the new album? Care to share any or all of the titles?
DH: There will be fourteen tracks
on the new album. You should know the titles soon enough.
AC: Touring plans? Tell me the
Rancid tour is true! (And if I might make a suggestion: What about
Tiger Army and the Nerve Agents?!)
DH: Yes, we are touring with Rancid
starting starting in November. I think it was sorta a secret but
Tim told me I could tell, so there you go. It will be Rancid, AFI
and The Distillers. Needless to say we are very excited.
AC: What was it like playing w/
Danzig? I understand he's something close to an idol for you...
DH: Yes, Danzig was a huge inspiration
to me my whole life. If he hadn't of created the music he did, I
wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today. Touring with him, seeing
Danzig and Samhain every night was beyond amazing. They were all
very cool people and those were some of the most powerful performances
I've seen. The man sang two sets every night and never let up for
a second.
AC: Would you like to say anything
to the people who had a problem w/ the Offspring's cover of Totalimmortal?
I happen to think it wasn't that bad...
DH: Well, as far as the cover goes
first I'd like to beg people to stop asking me "What's up with
the Offspring covering your song?" That being said, The Offspring
are our friends, they asked to cover our song, we were flattered
and said okay. That's all. As far as people disliking their version,
well, that's really their own opinion, and they have a right to
it. The way I see it if you like the Offspring you'd probably like
there version, if not you won't. As far as people saying we sold
out, or they did, or they sold us out or that they should die because
they covered our song...that's all garbage. They are good people.
AC: On that note, did you ever
meet any criticism from Danzig/Misfits fans for your Misfits covers?
How was the response from Danzig fans' to you guys on the Danzig
tour?
DH: We didn't play the Misfits
songs on the Danzig tour, but we got a very good response at those
shows none the less. I don't think I can recall anyone saying anything
negative to me about our Misfits covers...every once in a while
people say they like our version better which is of course insane
flattery. I definitely could understand if there were people who
thought no one should ever cover the Misfits because they were so
great...but hey, we loved them and it's fun to play their songs.
AC: Where do you see yourselves
fitting into the music scene today? AFI has been called punk, hardcore
and even "death rock"... you always manage to blur the
lines between genres. I hate to ask you to pigeonhole your sound,
but, what's the best way to describe your current sound to a potential
listener?
DH: It's so difficult do describe
our music. We don't really fit anywhere because we don't really
try to fit anywhere. Luckily, people still seem to like us even
though we don't fit any one predetermined niche. They pay more attention
to what we sound like rather than what people call us. We're not
a punk band, we're not a hardcore band, we're not a deathrock band,
and at the same time we're all of those things.
AC: How did you hook up w/ Alan
Forbes? He's done your latest 3 album covers...you must like him
a lot!
DH: Yes, we love Alan. Not only
is he an amazing artist, he's a great guy. He has many cool toys
in his house too. I met his wife one day and we started talking...I
found out Alan liked our band and asked him if he'd be interested
in doing some stuff for us and he's been taking care of us ever
since. Wait till you see the art for the new album..Goddamn!
AC: What do you think of band
member look-a-like fans? Is imitation truly the sincerest form of
flattery? You've also been known to don aparrel similar to your
influences. Do you think it's basically a natural step for anyone
heavily into music or a similar sub-culture?
DH: Um, yeah, I do think that imitation
is the highest form of flattery. If I see someone that looks similar
to me my first thought is, wow, we must have some thing in common.
I don't really try do dress like my influences, I just dress the
way I want to. There are a lot of people who dress the way I do..we
share similar interests.
AC: What are some of your favorite
bands currently? Albums? (I know I asked this last time, but opinions
can change!)
DH: I can't stop listening to the
new Perfect Circle Cd. It's amazing. They're probably my favorite
new band. I've also been listening to the new Sunny Day Real Estate,
the new Elliot Smith, the latest Dillinger Escape Plan, the latest
Hot Water Music, and the new Nerve Agents cd. I'm anxiously awaiting
a new At The Drive In, the new Cult, and the new Tool CD's. I just
got the new Electric Hellfire Club disc but haven't had the chance
to listen to it yet.
AC: What do you like most about
the music scene today?
DH: The music scene today is very
strong and growing. It's nice to see that people are becoming less
and less concerned about what they call themselves, i.e. Punk, Hardcore
Kid, Metal kid, Gothic, Indie, Emo whatever, and more concerned
with good music.
AC: What do you dislike most about
the music scene today? How has it changed for the worse since you
became involved?
DH: There doesn't seem to be as
much good music being made as there once was.
AC: What recent band break-up
affected you the most? I know it's old news by now, but I'm pretty
put out that Strife is pretty much done for...
DH: Smashing Pumpkins.
AC: What new or emerging band impresses
you the most?
DH: Tiger Army, At the Drive In,
Hot Water Music.
AC: What was your favorite movie
of 1999 or 2000? I was partial to American Beauty and Sleepy Hollow.
I also was a big fan of 10 Things I Hate About You. How about you?
DH: My sentiments exactly on the
best recent films. (Alex's Note: I don't think Dave was referring
to 10 Things... I added that in afterwards.)
AC: I see that you've gotten your
other arm sleeved... care to describe some of the new work?
DH: My new work is Halloween town
from Nightmare Before Christmas. Jack is in it. Tombstones, Jack
O lanterns, the fountain in town square is on my elbow.....
AC: What world or national event
gripped your attention the most in the past year? Columbine was
pretty scary and I think it's interesting how it was blamed on music.
Do you have any thoughts?
n/c
How do you feel about the 2000
election year? Do you even vote?
n/c
DH: Alex, I apologize but I don't
really want to talk about the political stuff right now, but I'm
down for the yay or nays....
Short answer section: Yay or nay?
- Pokemon? Some of them are fancy but nay
- Push Up Girls? Push up Girls? Love the
girls, tired of the title
- Britney Spears? She's okay
- Limp Bizkit? Not my thing really
- Toyota Echo? If that's the one that's
supposed to look all old skool...nay
- Sleeping w/ a teddy bear? Yay, definitely
backing the bear or similar bedmates
- Starbucks/Borders Books and Music/Pseudo-Coffee-House
intellectuals? I'm never subjected to them
- Earth Crisis? Yay
- Daily Shower? Yay
- SF Giants? Man, I don't know a damn thing
about sports, I wear make-up and nail polish remember?
- Napster? Whatever
AC: I saw this in a magazine and
I thought it was a good question... if you could completely eliminate
any one person from history, who would it be?
DH: You know, I'm not down for
the erase a person from history question, I've had it before and
it just doesn't do it for me. But it's all good.
AC: Which question did you like
the least from this interview?
DH: I'd say the interview as a
whole was very very good. Thank you Alex.
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